How many Intel CPUs will fail the XP Mode test in Windows 7?
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Tip: Click here to update all your PC's outdated driversSome of the most popular PCs on the market today, equipped with fast and powerful dual- and quad-core CPUs, won’t be able to use the vaunted Windows XP Mode in Windows 7.
When Windows Vista launched, Intel and Microsoft both got a black eye over the infamous “Vista Capable” logo. That sticker was slapped on PCs running some of Intel’s most popular graphics chips, even though they wouldn’t run the new Aero graphics. Microsoft is still battling in court with angry customers (and their lawyers) who felt betrayed by that marketing campaign.
Now, three years later, it appears to be time for the “Vista Capable” sequel. How much positive Windows 7 buzz will be wiped out in coming weeks and months when consumers and business buyers discover that a heavily hyped new Windows 7 feature, XP Mode, won’t work on some Intel-based products? The problem is caused by the Byzantine way Intel packages its CPU technology—adding, removing, and tweaking features like bus speed and cache size to hit the widest variety of price points for PC makers.
The new Windows Virtual PC (now available as a beta release for the Windows 7 Release Candidate) requires hardware-assisted virtualization. For your PC to run XP Mode in Windows 7, the CPU has to support Intel Virtualization Technology (Intel VT) or AMD Virtualization (AMD-V), and this support has to be enabled in the BIOS.
In the case of Intel’s phenomenally confusing product matrix, VT support is added and removed from CPU models for reasons that have more to do with marketing than technology. You can’t necessarily tell from the model number whether VT support is present or not. If you buy a brand-new PC and pick the wrong CPU, Windows Virtual PC won’t be able to host the virtual machine that powers XP Mode. And spending more money can actually hurt you in some configurations.
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Comments(13)
well it's not microsoft's fault but intel. intel didn't think virtualization is
important so to bad for intel people. least amd is keeping their guns together.
i used the vmware visualization software in the past so i think this means that my cpu
does have vt enabled right?...
yea, it should have. love my pentium d :) it's treated me so greaty. next processor for
me will be an amd to go with my ati 4850 =] which runs pretty much everything
why not publish a list with cpu supporting virtualisation ?
will a intel pentium d extreme work with vmware...?
and yeah, why would they
publish a list so we can see if our cpu can't run vmware?
but.. btw, what
should we use xp mode to? w7 in build 7000 was faster, more secure and more stabil than xp
is now..
and i dosn't heard about 1 silly thing working on xp that dosn't work on
windows 7?
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm - list with intel
processors
intel always sux, i've always recommend to my families and friend for not to get an
intel processor since its expensive and inefficient. amd processors are much more cheaper,
engergy efficient and more bang per buck.
amd completely supports windows 7.
amd rocks.
i can explain how to hack your bios for sony vaio laptop models that do have a intel cpu
with the vt technology... because almost all vaio models don´t have this option in bios,
it has to be forced... in my vaio szh1pb i have this option enabled with a core2duo t7200
and his working in virtual pc2007.
securable 1.0.2570.1
www.softpedia.com/get/system/system-info/securable.shtml
this prog test u if your cpu as vt
desktop cpus core 2 duo
e4300/4400/4500/4600/4700 no
e6300/6320/6400/6420/6540/6550 yes
e6600/6700/6750/6850 yes
e7200/7300/7400/7500
no
e8190 no
e8200/8300/8400/8500/8600 yes
core 2 extreme
qx6700/6800/6850 yes
qx9650/9770/9775 yes
x6800 yes
core 2 quad
q6600/6700 yes
q8200/8200s/8300/8400/8400s no
q9300/9400/9400s yes
q9450/9550/9550s/9650 yes
core i7/core i7 extreme
i7-920/940 yes
i7-965 yes
pentium d/pentium ee
805/820/830/840 no
915/925/935/945 no
920/930/940/950/960 yes
955/965 yes
pentium for
desktop
e2140/2160/2180/2200/2220 no
e5200/5300/5400 no
mobile
cpu products core 2 duo mobile
l7200/7300/7400/7500 yes
p7350/7450 no
p7370 yes
p8400/8600/8700/9500/9600 yes
sl9300/9400/9600 yes
sp9300/9400/9600 yes
su9300/9400/9600 yes
t5200/5250/5270/5300/5450/5470 no
t5500/5600 yes
t5550/5670/5750/5800/5850/5870/5900 no
t6400/6570 no
t7100/7200/7250/7300/7400 yes
t7500/7600/7700/7800 yes
t8100/8300 yes
t9300/9400/9500/9550/9600/9800 yes
u7500/u7600 yes
core 2 extreme mobile
qx9300 yes
x7800/7900 yes
x9000/9100 yes
core 2 quad
mobile
q9000 yes
q9100 no
core 2 solo
su3300/3500
yes
u2100/2200 yes
core duo
l2300/2400/2500 yes
t2050/2250
no
t2300/2400/2500/2600/2700 yes
t2300e/2350/2450 no
u2400/2500 yes
core solo
t1300/1400 yes
t1350 no
u1300/1400/1500 yes
amd cpus
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all am2 and later cpu's support it except semprons.
remember that you can´t have vt (even if you have a cpu with this tecnology!) if your
bios doesn't give you the option to enable it, or has it enabled by default!
vmware does support hardware-assisted virtuleizing. but vmware does not require a special
type of cpu in order do serve its main purpose. i have been using vmware for the 8 years
and love it and recommend it if your cpu doesnt support the new xp-mode. it also has
something simular to xpmode but it has a dfferent name cane remember now.
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Ow that's gotta hurt
By Yoshi on 05.05.2009 - 02:05