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The screaming 320GB hard drive in my new Sony VAIO laptop has me screeching. Thank you Windows Experience Index.




I just got the computer a week ago Friday—and it was an expensive purchase. A friend and I swapped some gear, for which he got my older 15-inch MacBook Pro (2,4GHz processor and 4GB RAM), which offset most of the VAIO's $1,999 price. The WEI, as rated by Windows Vista: a respectable, but not great 3.8. Windows 7 Beta 1 WEI: 2.0.

That's right, as I tweeted earlier today: "My new VAIO laptop had 3.8 Windows Experience Index under Vista. It gets a 2.0 under Windows 7. Because of the hard drive. LOL. But, of course, I'm not laughing at all. I'm not crying, either. There is a reason specific to Beta 1.

My swapping buddy rang this morning, and I told him about the 2.0 rating. His immediate reaction: "That's a thousand dollars a point."

I checked the WEI because of a new post at Microsoft's Engineering Windows 7 Weblog. I can't tell you how good the rating makes me feel about my new computer.

"Somebody showed you that it's not as shiny a penny. There's a shinier penny," my friend said. He's right. I'm more satisfied running Windows 7 on this laptop than any other with Windows Vista. But there's this psychological thing, of going from a three-eight to a, ah, two. It's not a good feeling, but it's not one likely to last. Gulp, hopefully.

According to today's E7 blog post, Microsoft has temporarily capped the rating for some hard drives. There are some issues related to caching that affect WEI scoring. Microsoft's Michael Fortin explains:

To reflect this real world learning, in the Windows 7 Beta code, we have capped scores for drives which appear to exhibit the problematic behavior (during the scoring) and are using our feedback system to send back information to us to further evaluate these results. Scores of 1.9, 2.0, 2.9 and 3.0 for the system disk are possible because of our current capping rules. Internally, we feel confident in the beta disk assessment and these caps based on the data we have observed so far. Of course, we expect to learn from data coming from the broader beta population and from feedback and conversations we have with drive manufacturers.

source: microsoft-watch.com.

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Comments(23)

Lol retarded

By jessiesrage on 20.01.2009 - 02:01
anyway the reason is probably cause you have a crappy mac, i have a computer that i bought about 4 years ago with an amd athlon 64 3200+ 1gb or ddr ram, nvidia agp 6800gtoc and 39gb of hard drive free and my windows 7 score is a 3.6 and i paid about... 350$ for my computer.

Hard Drisk Caps

By jessiesrage on 20.01.2009 - 02:01
there are no hard disk caps...
i have a seagate barracuda 7200rpm 120gb hard drive with only 39gb remaining and it is rated alone a 5.2 in windows 7. sry pal

~jessiesrage

read again, retard

By flbudz on 20.01.2009 - 02:01
jessiesrage; it said its capped drives that exhibit certain issues, not all drives. and it said he was using a sony vaio, not a mac. (the mac was traded to offset the vaio) if you need help with reading comprehension i can have my 8yr old tutor you!

windows ratings still undeveloped

By Colby on 20.01.2009 - 02:01
this is confirmed but the systems rating is not fully operational because most computers hardrives will be at 2.0 because its either not supported at the moment (beta) or its a shit harddrive so once the official windows 7 out it should be like 4.9 or something

So.... whats the problem then...

By jessiesrage on 20.01.2009 - 02:01
if the person is on a vaio and the only score that is bad is a defective or problematic hard drive, but the computer seems to work fine then w/e whats the point of this then... if it is misreading well then atleast you have a hard drive that works fine, if its not misreading get a new harddrive. also ugh a vaio.. nice bang for your buck...jk anyway flbudz, ok def. misread the mac part i thought it was the vise versa giving away the vaio for the mac, tho whatever the case, also how can these newer drives be giving these crazy issuses if older ones are not, why are they special? also screw you flbudz not necessary

It Happens to me too!

By Ericko on 20.01.2009 - 04:01
my wei is 3.0 because of the hard drive's rating. under vista my wei was 4.7

It's great

By corei7 on 20.01.2009 - 04:01
i have an acer aspire one and the wei is 2.1, it runs aero great with no lag (on the integrated gma950). i can't believe how windows 7 is fast.

Not me!!

By crzygrmn on 20.01.2009 - 04:01
well, my vista wei is 4.9!!
and for some reason its the same under windows 7 beta! at least i know my pd805 and 1600pro, 2gbram, 4 160gbhdd is not that bad!!

windows rating

By mediator on 20.01.2009 - 05:01
sorry to read so much argrument in this thread. if you are a serious computer person as i am that work on several new and old computer everyday (including the i7), you will not even talk about the rating. all you should care about is how well your computer perform overall. to me, these index that base on the slowest performance hardware is a joke.
just for everyone information, newer hard drive has newer firmware and microcodes to speed up disk access in particular for multi thread files access, that is when you are running more than one application and each of the application try to access hard drive at the same time. these micro code will try to priorities these requests and optimize the travel of the read/write head to get the best performance. the firmware also has to decide what to keep and what not to keep in the cache. therefore, the newer the drive, the less accurate are all these older disk rating software. there has been significant hard disk speed improvement for 3.5" hard drive at 320g and beyond using sata2. unfortunately, 2.5" notebook hard drive is significantly slower than the 3.5" due to the cache memory, spindle speed and the read/write head latency.
there is also no crappy mac or pc because they basically use the same hardware. the only different really is in the operating system, osx or windows.

mediator is right

By rater on 20.01.2009 - 05:01
yup it's ridiculous to rate base on the lowest score. ms should rate it evenly with avg. score.

hard drive score

By stonyi1 on 20.01.2009 - 05:01
my seagates score is 5.8 in both vista and 7, and like it was said before who really cares about these scores.i don't, my pc runs fine for me.

I got a 2.0 too

By some random human on 20.01.2009 - 06:01
my laptop received a 2.0 as well under windows 7. ...except it probably deserved it because in vista, the rating was a massive 2.9~3.0 depending on ram. (because everything else falls under the "vista capable" sticker people saw on laptops from 2 years ago.)

My indexes

By Ciro on 20.01.2009 - 09:01
vista x64 sp1: 5.8
7 x32: 6.0
7 x64: 5.9

specs: e8400, 4gb ddr2 800, 500hd maxtor, 8800gt 512

The Hard Disk rating can be solved easily :)

By John on 20.01.2009 - 11:01
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=windows+7+data+transfer+rate+is+low&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq =t&rls=org.mozilla:en-us:official&client=firefox-a

no problem here

By forkicks on 20.01.2009 - 13:01
im very pleased with my 6.0 rating, went up from 5.9 on vista. got a 1tb seagate with 32mb cache, under a phenom 9600 and 8gb ram.

doen't boot up

By uncleblack on 20.01.2009 - 16:01
1 gb mem. amd1700+ 160gb hd i have been installed 4 time, each time it took 5-6 hours i still have xp pro on it work like a dream i don't know where i done wrong, maybe the hd. only manage to see the welcome screen twice,frustrating, can any u good people help, thanks.

stop comparing with vista

By zm on 20.01.2009 - 17:01
for goodness, stop comparing wei score with vista.

you people just need to know the way wei scores get calculated is different from 7 and vista.

its true

By rags on 20.01.2009 - 19:01
my hdd got a rating of
5.3 in vista
2.0 in win 7 b1
5.3 in win 7 b1 after switching off disk catching....
microsoft did mention something in their blog about this

RPMsssss

By owner on 22.01.2009 - 03:01
come on people.... laptop hard drives run at 4200 rpm (most of them anyways) while desktop hard drives run at 7200 rpm. its a mater of heat and energy consumption!

Please Explain...

By KingsCrown on 22.01.2009 - 06:01
my ppc has a wd scorpio black 320 gb 7200 rpm sata, wei subscore 5.9 (vista & 7)...

Warning for forkicks!

By Mick on 22.01.2009 - 06:01
forkicks, if your seagate is a st31000340as model, i very strongly recommend you go the the seagate website and download the firmware update. some companies are reporting up to a 40 percent fail rate on these drives, and its likely every non-updated drive will eventually 'brick' itself.

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?docid=207951

its also been downloadable from other websites for much longer, since seagate released it to companies to cover themselves (but did extended testing before making them available on their site).
its an extremely serious issue that covers several models of drives, don't be complacent about it.

(the new firmware may also improve performance, it did for a friend of mine anyway)

Enable AHCI!

By brins0 on 22.01.2009 - 23:01
well my mahcine was rated 5.9 in vista, whereas in windows 7 it's rated at 5.5 due the the ram which is ddr2 800mhz, quite slow compared to what you can get now, in all fairness. my scores are:

7.2, 5.5, 7.9, 5.9, 5.9

i'm using a seagate baracuda 7200 as the guy a few posts above, but the 250gb version. it rated 2.0 initially, turning ahci on raised that to 5.9 with vast improvements system wide, so...

for all people with low hdd ratings, enable ahci on your sata controllers!

RAID 0

By JJ on 23.01.2009 - 03:01
i've got two seagate 320gb drives in raid 0 and only get 3.0 as a rating for the hard drive.


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