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Vista SP2 and Windows 7 by the End of June 2009

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The evolution of the Windows client, involving both Windows Vista (now with Service Pack 1) and Windows 7, appears to be closer than Microsoft is ready to acknowledge officially.




Of course, Windows XP, even with Service Pack 3, is the past, with the exception of customers abandoning Windows Vista by exercising their downgrade rights. Windows Vista, even with SP1, is a present that makes the future seem to not get here fast enough. And Vista SP2 along with Windows 7 and Windows Cloud (Strata) are the future. But at the same time, both Vista SP2 and Windows 7 are nothing more than the evolution of Vista, to a lesser, and respectively a larger degree.

Come the end of October 2008, and the start of November, Microsoft will deliver a rather consistent taste of where it is heading with Windows, not only Windows 7, but also Windows 7 Server and Windows Strata (the label continues to be unconfirmed by the company). Events such as the Professional Developer Conference 2008, Windows Hardware Conference 2008 and TechEd EMEA will be focused on Windows 7 and Windows Cloud, although less on Windows Vista.

While at TechEd Brasil, at the start of this week, Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer indicated that the company planned to unveil a range of new products by July 2009. Microsoft's CEO mentioned that, by the end of June 2009, the software giant would offer "client operating system releases." Microsoft is, of course, already cooking Windows Vista SP2 and Windows 7.

Ballmer stated that "Microsoft technologies: Windows, Windows Server, .NET, Visual Studio, Silverlight, SharePoint, Office (...) over the course of the 12 month period that ends June of next year, [are] just a subset of all of the exciting new innovations Microsoft will bring to market: client operating system releases, information management tools, security, gaming products and systems. The range of new technologies in some senses is growing and growing quickly." (emphasis added)

Windows Vista Service Pack 2 (SP2)

Microsoft released Windows Vista RTM at the end of January 2007, not counting the business launch of the operating system in November 2006. Vista SP1 was released to manufacturing on February 4, 2008 concomitantly with Windows Server 2008, but was only made available for download starting March 18. Now the Redmond company has already moved onward to Service Pack 2.

In fact Vista SP2 invites to the Beta program have already started to be sent out, according to Neowin. It is not Windows Vista SP2 that Microsoft is cooking, but also Windows Server 2008 SP2, Beta invites for which have also been sent out. Microsoft has yet to confirm anything officially, but the first Beta bits for Windows Vista SP2 and Windows Server 2008 SP2 are reportedly going to testers in just four weeks.

Still, while Service Pack 1 was the catalyst that took Vista RTM out of coma, making the operating system worthy of a long forgotten and discarded Wow label, SP2 is bound to be nothing more than a standard service pack release. At best, SP2 will take Vista forward just as much as SP1.

The equation is rather simple for Microsoft. The company will end up with a repeat of the Windows XP SP2 – Windows Vista scenario in which both operating systems are available at the same time on the market, although this situation would involve Vista SP2 and Windows 7 RTM. The last thing that Microsoft needs is to evolve Vista with SP2 sufficiently enough that it will be capable to rival Windows 7. In this context, the answer is rather simple. The Redmond giant needs to keep Vista at a relative stand-still even with SP2, and focus all innovation on Windows 7.

Windows 7, or Windows 6.1, or Windows Vista R2, or Windows Vista but "a lot better"

The seventh major version of Windows, but only according to Microsoft's math, comes with no differentiation between the codename and the brand. However, Windows 7 will, for the sake of perpetuating the existing level of Vista software compatibility, be in fact Windows 6.1. At the same time, according to Ballmer, Windows 7 will be Vista, but “a lot better.” This makes Windows 7 an excellent candidate for the Windows Vista R2 label, just as Windows 7 Server is in fact Windows Server 2008 R2. Still, the early feedback on the Windows 7 moniker indicates that the management of the Windows 7 project made the right choice.

"There you have it, Windows 7 now has a name. It’s called – Windows 7,” revealed Steve Clayton, Microsoft's UK Partner Group CTO. “To be honest I was quite surprised but also pretty pleased. The naming decision as Mike Nash says is about simplicity. It’ll certainly save us from all having to unlearn the name we’ve all had for it to date. I expect this naming decision will be debated to death on all the usual sites, but me, I’m just happy we settled on a name. Now let’s get to the PDC and get the bits!"

source: news.softpedia.com

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Comments(13)

Sounds like bull

By Skully on 19.10.2008 - 04:10
ms has never shipped an os on time. christmas 2010 sounds more like it.......

windows 7 can wait

By Lucas on 19.10.2008 - 07:10
windows seven can wait a little more. cook more d stuff if u know what i mean. but vista sp2 is very welcome com come q2-2009.

Thx for the news

By Amirz on 19.10.2008 - 07:10
thx for the news

Sounds like Microsoft will give a "candy" to blind us...

By Yasuo on 19.10.2008 - 17:10
i think all this is bullshit, microsoft in my opinion, is going to re-release both vista and server 2008, they learn with windows millenium that they can´t play with costumers or they play with them. vista and server 2008 are the most rotten os, since millenium. vista is cute graphicly, but has much problems, that all people who used it knows... i think microsoft will only improve the vista and server 2008, freely for all registed buyers, and two days before the realise they will tell the world that, the new os coming from them, is only a updade. in that momment xp will finally dye and i will try one more time to use vista besides gamming.
i hope microsoft starts carrying much more about costumers, or they are lost in the ocean.
regards.

No suprise if..

By MeMan on 19.10.2008 - 17:10
windows 7 gets beaten not by vista. by xp!

No matter how much I try....

By torrentstorm on 19.10.2008 - 20:10
i just don't like vista. i don't like the way it moves, how it behaves, and how it's engineered, with a bunch of services not needed, which cannot be disabled because something else needed is also affected. graphically nice, yes, but why do i get the impression that vista is like millenium, a badly hashed os still full of bugs?
i think i'll wait till 2009 to make my choice of next os, depending on what windows 7 will be like.

List of most Vista Applications and features for Xp

By Good Man on 19.10.2008 - 21:10
list of most vista applications and features for xp (i.e vista ports etc):

http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20480

Call a spade a spade

By Skully on 20.10.2008 - 10:10
if you don't like vista ...fine. but stop all the crud about it being buggy, or does not work. vista works fine on machines built to habdle it. i have built and ran vista on 6 diffent machines since vista came out, and each runs flawlessly.
you can't put spinners on a kia and expect it to turn into an escalade.
i think the cry-babies here who non-stop cry about vista will do the same with 7, or any other os ms comes out with. use your xp for the next 15 yrs, and stop griping. better yet, buy a mac.


dont mess

By Samuel on 20.10.2008 - 19:10
right, does vista work, yes, it works, does it matter if it has little problems, forget it, its a computer, designed to do the simple things easier, at the end of the day, there all the same, xp, vista, they all are good, and tbh look at xp, when it first came out, sp2 fixed most problems. sp3 was just a waste of time, does it matter, stop messing with things and be cool about it, stop whining about petty little things

i agree

By PcNerdinator on 20.10.2008 - 19:10
i agree with the guy above to be honest you all need to quiet down lads honestly

Vista s.ucks donkey dongs

By Petty little whiner on 21.10.2008 - 03:10
vista s.ucks. i hate it. xp is much better. matter of fact, windows 3.1 lite is way better than vista, because it ain't so buggy. hell, even dos is better. shit, even a goddamn abacus makes a better os.

actually, counting on your toes is better, because i can get up to ten without my toes crashing the way vista does. did i mention it s.ucks? and it is very buggy - did i say that?

people who use vista are in the dark ages, and are very, very homos.exual - they like to sodomize other guy's butts, and slurp on their ding-dongs.

in closing: vista s.ucks, and it is full of spyware, viruses, and other cooties.

p.s.: vista is also very buggy.



tiny vista is good

By jimj on 21.10.2008 - 21:10
i've been using tiny vista rev2 by experience for awhile and love it

vista beautiful but too hyped and souped up

By gEEkEr on 17.11.2008 - 15:11
i accidentally switched over to vista. it was an error on my part. and once i installed it, it ate up my hdd's boot area. when i tried to install xp over it, it was a failure. even fedora 8/mandriva/debian/suse &c...everything refused to install over it. so i had to reinstall vista. and now i'm stuck with it. but if i could, i would again revert to xpsp3 and also install fedora over it on a dual boot.

vista is not only buggy but a resource mongrel. i've a few vista compatible software that are blocked by it after boot. i've to select allow everytime to run the blocked startups. eg, change wallpaper, folder protect &c. thanx all for taking anti-vista stand.

hey jimj, could you please link me to tiny vista rev2. i searched for it in vain. thanx in advance. cheers to all!


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