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As Windows XP Deadline Looms, OEMs Turn To Vista Downgrade Rights


section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 25.4.2008

Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) may be preparing to discontinue sales of Windows XP, but some OEMs have found a way to circumvent the software giant's June 30 deadline.




In yet another sign of the market's resistance to Windows Vista, Dell (NSDQ:Dell) Computer, Hewlett Packard (NYSE:HPQ), and Sony on Wednesday all confirmed plans to exercise the downgrade rights Microsoft offers with OEM versions of Windows Vista Business and Vista Ultimate in order to continue offering XP-equipped PCs to their customers.

Downgrade rights, which Microsoft also offers to volume licensing customers, give users the ability to roll back to the previous version of the product they're using. Downgrade rights have existed since 2001 for Windows, but many Microsoft partners say they've been seeing a recent uptick in the number of customers exercising downgrade rights to roll Vista back to XP Professional.

HP will sell PCs pre-installed with XP Professional on its business desktops, notebooks and workstations until July 30, 2009, a spokesperson for the Palo Alto, Calif.-based vendor said in an email to ChannelWeb.

"After June 30, 2008, if a customer already has the XP image and license, HP also can also install that customer's image on their Vista Business systems through our HP PC Customization Services," the spokesperson said.

Dell, Round Rock, Texas, plans to offer Windows XP Professional pre-installed on new PCs for customers that buy Vista Business or Vista Ultimate "for as long as Microsoft supports it," according to a Dell spokesperson, who declined to offer a more specific timeframe.

A Microsoft spokesperson said OEMs have been given the right to provide downgrade media for Windows XP with new Windows Vista Business and Windows Vista Ultimate PCs until January 31, 2009, which is also the cutoff date for system builders.

OEMs appear to have different approaches to dealing with the time costs of performing the downgrade from Vista to XP Professional before shipment.

source: crn.com

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Comments(13)

either way, microsoft makes lots of money!

By yoyoma on 26.04.2008 - 05:04
notice that it's only the business and ultimate version with the downgrade rights. combined with the fact that most consumer pc's ship with home premium which cannot be downgraded, microsoft will keep boasting about all their vista license sales. even if people downgrade to xp pro, microsoft will keep making piles of cash cuz of how overpriced vista ultimate and business are.

the other interesting thing about this is that the downgrade rights only pertain to xp pro. even though most pc's thus far have shipped with xp home, the effort to keep xp alive will mean there could be more xp pro licenses out there than xp home. bottom line is that xp home will get snuffed out faster since microsoft has a slightly different support cycle for xp home than xp pro. and even those people who don't care for the business features of vista business and ultimate will be forced to cough up that much more cash to keep using xp.

back to vista

By vistaxp on 26.04.2008 - 08:04

donwgrade rights contains possibility to go back to vista

downgrading to xp is not permanent.


WOW, a bunch of dumb people

By Me on 26.04.2008 - 13:04
xp is very old, come on people let go of your outdated os.. vista is the future.

You Peoples Are Really Dumb

By Vista Rules on 26.04.2008 - 14:04
windows xp is really old os and also its security is not that secured. i have 2 pc which pre-installed with vista and xp. the first pc with a xp got allot of problems. i'd had installed antivirus first before connect to the internet but you know what? viruses, trojans and worms attacks give my pc really sick. but, my vista is still performs great. it doesnt need an antivirus and still runs great. i guess you people should know that vista is far better than xp. during the 2000s, xp was full of bugs but now, because of its service packs, xp became reliable, so do with vista. i wish you guys out there had the same in mind. im sure vista will be getting better and better. there's no such arguement over microsoft's oses. either then, xp will sure be banish in this world.

Love windows 3..11

By Me on 26.04.2008 - 15:04
let’s all sign a petition to get back windows 3.11, it was the best os ever made :p

re : You Peoples Are Really Dumb

By Overclocker on 26.04.2008 - 16:04
at vista rules ;
i second that ever since i installed
vista i am trouble free
xp isnt stable as vista


XP better than Vista

By Vista? no thanks! on 26.04.2008 - 16:04
you vista fanboys have no clue. vista is not the future! vista is like a wheel of stone from the past.

no i'm not going back to windows 3.11 because windows xp is so much better than 3.11 and vista put together!

new isn't always the same as improved!


Re: You Peoples Are Really Dumb

By violent smurf on 26.04.2008 - 17:04
if you have viruses, trojans and worms all over your computer, that's not because of xp but because your antivirus and/or firewall súcks big time or you are really dumb and not using one in the first place. as vista has no built-in antivirus either, not installing one yourself is just plain stupid.

I hate Vista

By Enraged toon head on 27.04.2008 - 07:04
listen up vista fanbois: thats right n00bs! vista has no anti virus or real anti spyware that comes with it! windows defender is a joke! its is worthless! absolutely fuc.kin worthless!
as with an os you must install a good anti virus and anti spyware. xp runs any program smoother and better than vista ever will. it is not a memory and cpu whore like vista. hell even with a quad core cpu xp kicks vista s ass anytime. vista is for ignorant n00bs that cant deal with configuring advanced options on their own in xp pro.


to all those noobs

By Tsu on 27.04.2008 - 15:04
bullcr*p antivirus is for noobs who dont have a clue who to manage there computer correctly , whom watch pr0n and
anti viruses s*cks useless all it have to do is ripe you from your money & and slowdown your pc to crawl ,worse then viruses to begin with , and anyway
xp is insecure by design .

Don't use IE

By NotaNoob on 27.04.2008 - 21:04
the best way to avoid geting viri and trojans is to use firefox browser with noscript and adblock plugins etc, and not to use ie (activex and java enabled). a good anti virus program running in the background is also required.

it's possable to browse p#rn sites all day long without getting the clap, regardless of which operating system you use!

XP licences

By steeviebops on 28.04.2008 - 00:04
"the other interesting thing about this is that the downgrade rights only pertain to xp pro. even though most pc's thus far have shipped with xp home"

not entirely true actually... ms ran out of xp pro product keys so had to release a modified version of sp2, sp2c to increase the pool of keys. xp home remained unchanged.

but yes, most low end machines did use xp home though a lot came with mce over the last couple of years.

You've got to be kidding me

By Anonymous on 08.05.2008 - 06:05
are you sure you want to read this comment?
are you sure that you're sure you want to read this comment?

sound familiar? it's vista. that's only one of many annoyances (to say the least) that vista provides. sure, you can turn off those warnings, but then you'll also turn off what makes vista far more secure. it'll just be another form of xp with a bloated gui (translation: uses up a lot more ram memory and processor power), driver incompatibilities all over the place, service errors and many other problems that microsoft has yet to address.

and for those of you who say that the only get virii, malware and the like is because you go to sites you shouldn't be going to in the first place is half right. don't forget there's also spam that managed to get past the filtering process. no matter how careful you are, the risk is still there. that's why "internet security" is provided by third parties. and don't give me that bull that vista doesn't suffer from them. they still do.

i build, repair and remotely monitor (aka managed services) computers of all kinds, be it for businesses or private consumers. 2000, me, xp, vista... my clients have all kinds of windows oss. they all have their problems, either caused by the user (typically) or a fix that wasn't applied to the problem to prevent it from happening.

yes, vista's starting to dominate xp in terms of private users because computers you buy from the store are preloaded with it, but in the business world, xp pro is typically the os of choice. why? well, as i've already said, bloated gui, drivers incompability, service errors, etc. those alone would make business give the big n-o. but there's more reasons. vista's too new. so what? well, it means that there's less local it support as of yet, and they have yet to prove their strengths in the business world. money is also a giant factor. xp has been around long enough that businesses are sure their programs that they require to run will work on xp. on top of that, a business typically has three to thousands of computers. an upgrade to vista will require a lot of money, both spending for the vista upgrade and necessary hardware upgrades to support it, and businesses typically will put up a fierce fight if their pockets are involved.

bottom line is that xp (pro typically) will continue to be relied upon over vista in the business world. microsoft should just compromise by continuing xp pro (at least) production until more support is made available for vista and people feel more comfortable switching to it.


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