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Vista Trick Theorist Defends Loophole Claims


section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 17.4.2008

The Windows expert who originally speculated that Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) deliberately included a 'trick' in Windows Vista that lets users install the OS from the upgrade version on Wednesday defended his position.




Earlier this month, the Windows Secrets newsletter reiterated claims it made last year that Microsoft is aware that users can clean install the fully functional, but cheaper upgrade edition of Vista on any machine, but doesn't want to actually stop them.

Microsoft denied this, and last week, Eric Ligman, Microsoft's senior manager of community engagement for small business in the U.S., railed against unnamed sources he accused of spreading misinformation and promoting software piracy.

But Brian Livingston, editorial director of WindowsSecrets.com, doesn't think that speculating on the reasons why Microsoft included the loophole in Vista, and why Microsoft didn't eliminate it in Vista SP1, is tantamount to supporting illegal behavior.

"No one is encouraging people to try to 'rip off' Windows for zero dollars," Livingston said. "One or two people might buy Vista without having any prior copy of Windows, but that would be a fraction of the people who are using this documented feature."

On Tuesday, Ligman clarified his comments and said his references to "clueless people" weren't directed at the customers or readers of the Microsoft Small Business Community blog. "They are directed at those trying to confuse the customers by telling them that it is OK to do this 'just because it physically installs,'" he wrote.

However, Livingston didn't back off his earlier claims that Microsoft is aware that it's possible for users to install Vista in this manner.

"Microsoft developers obviously included the clean install trick because security experts say you should not install one OS over another, but wipe out the old one and install the new one cleanly," said Livingston.

Livingston notes that Microsoft documents the procedure in its Knowledge Base through several "well thought-out" dialogue boxes. "If this is so bad, why didn't Microsoft eliminate it from Vista SP1?

source: crn.com

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Comments(4)

conspiracy theories can take root anywhere!

By yoyoma on 18.04.2008 - 02:04
"microsoft developers obviously included the clean install trick because security experts say you should not install one os over another, but wipe out the old one and install the new one cleanly"

a clean install and a double install over a trial version of vista are not the same thing.

it doesn't really make sense why this loophole exists in the first place! why would a trial version of vista be seen as a viable qualifying licensed version of windows from which a legal upgrade could be performed? microsoft should've just focussed on selling more legit keys for people within the 30-day trial period. or maybe they were just desperate to get lots of xp users to convert rather than to just force vista oem licenses down people's throats.

it's almost common knowledge that clean installs are better than upgrades. the installer should check for a legit windows volume even if you boot from the dvd and then let you choose an upgrade or clean install. this is a choice you make in a step that preceeds the one where you enter your key (if you have one).

p.s.- i was one of the "one or two people" who went for the upgrade license at the last minute because i was lucky enough to learn of the loophole early on.

Loophole in upgrade

By snagglegraspt on 18.04.2008 - 04:04
vista is such a shit os, maybe it is the only way microbloat could get people to use the upgrade.


I love Vista

By Me on 18.04.2008 - 14:04
i enjoy vista very much.

I am a Homo!

By snagglegraspt on 18.04.2008 - 16:04
i have an old pc and this why i love xp so much. i wish i could make love to my windows xp.


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