Vista SP1 fails to spark migration
section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 29.3.2008
Microsoft's latest efforts to persuade customers to upgrade to its much-maligned Vista operating system have met with a cool response from users.
Historically, Microsoft's first service pack for one of its marquee products – such as Windows – provides the impetus for users to upgrade. As Gartner analyst, Stephen Kleynhans recently noted, customers see SP1 as the sign that the OS has reached maturity and is ready for enteprise deployment.
But even the offer of free support for using installing Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) and tools to lower implementation cost, the user response has been one of stony indifference.
Vista SP1 includes a number of fixes for bugs that have plagued the operating system, as well as improved support for drivers. It initially became available to download from Microsoft's website and will be included as part of the Window's Update feature from mid-April.
But with some users reporting initial problems with installing Vista SP1 – from problems installing the software from Microsoft's website to unexpected spikes in memory usage once SP1 was installed – the company was quick to offer customers help manage the upgrade.
Business users can download the "Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2008", a unified set of tools and processes which Microsoft claims can cut the cost of upgrading from $300 per PC implementation to just $35.
Despite these efforts many users remain reluctant to upgrade to Vista. According to a recent survey by open source enterprise content manager provider Alfresco Software based on its 35,000 customers, only two per cent had upgraded to Vista, compared to 63 per cent using XP and 28 per cent remaining on Windows 2003.
And while SP1 may have alleviated some of the driver support headaches, many business users would not be persuaded by SP1.
"The cost is not the major factor holding larger organisations back. It is more the complexity of implementing Vista on a large scale," said Jes Seymour, a consultant at service company IT Insight.
Meanwhile a spokeswoman for blue chip user group The Corporate IT forum suggested that many businesses will already have finalised plans for upgrading to Vista – if SP1 was now to have any impact, it would only be to delay upgrades yet further. "In the corporate world lifecyles are set and planned far in advance," she said. But they may "wait and hear about the impact of SP1 before they upgrade to Vista."
"Even SP1 would not convince us to upgrade," said Alexis Wood, IT production manager for dating company Allegran Ltd. "Upgrading to Vista would effect our productivity levels."
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everyone knows there is no incentive to 'downgrade' to windows millinium part two.
vista is a stinker. xp pro can do, and does everything faster and smoother without driver
or program compatibility issues. vista is not backwards compatible with the previous os,
which makes no sense. and why the he11 do we need like six versions??? omg!
yeah...vista's a stinker alright - if you're running a second gen athlon or p4. i find
vista to be subjectively faster than xp with an x2 processor. i ran vista with a athlon
mobile barton core at 2.5ghz..it was slow and doggy. i drew the same conclusion as the
rest of the critics. then i moved up to an x2 and vista x64. it's now plenty fast.
it's my experience that xp does not do everything faster and smoother. take video
playback for example. vista has a new video renderer evr (enhanced video renderer).
i've never seen better playback than this...with vmr9 redering, hali's renderer, or
otherwise.
maybe there's no incentive to upgrade for you. for me vista has a number of features
that cannot be done on xp. especially for photographers.
and there are a
number of features that are native to vista that are a pain in the but for xp.
there's a small list for example below.
as for the driver issue and
illogical skus. yeah. pain in the a$$
-icc v4 - color management
-directx 10
-acclerated vector based ui
-xps and color managed printing
-native sata
-shell scripting
-transactional ntfs
-file encryption
with sp1 already slipstreamed, no clueless beginner user will have any problems
implementing it. if most of them really are holding out on sp1, then seeing vista for the
first time with sp1 already a part of it should give them a slightly better impression of
vista than its gold edition.
as soon as you open windows explorer in vista then disaster begins to unfold. you crave
for xp's simplicity but all you get is overkill. the classic ui is woeful.
why
microsoft why????
again anyone who relates vista as me, needs to quit jacking off cuz there is not enough
blood getting to his brain.
thats just bs, it was estimated that 30% of vista crashes was due to poorly designed
nvidia drivers. so the playback is not superior to xp in any way..it was only recently
that the nvidia drivers improved. i run a duo processor and i can tell you xp is much
smoother, and faster doing anything. i run duo at 3.8 ghz, fast enough for you?
your retarded "does retarded salute" you should realize that its the company job to
fix its own issues, not the os. if they aren't up to par its not the os's fault. also
play back is much smoother, your just digging your own grave that you don't know
computers. besides xp is out of date no matter if vista is a failure or not. you out of
touch with reality fantasy xp fanboy.
sorry everyone, i am retarded and cannot control my actions..
move to vista - or be one of these crusty luddites who moan about the lack of support for
their beloved 98. these twisted creatures live in dank caves with no sunlight and mutter
to themselves about there being no need to change to xp!
we've seen this argument
before, surely?
dont get it. whhy is vista better for photographers?!?!? there is absolutely nothing
vista can do better than xp. it's an illusion. nice icons and glass fx etc doesnt make an
os better
if thats all you can say, then yes you are stupid.
hi eemmm i think vista is great. its a very good operating system. get genuine you lot
will feel the difference. i am 15 years old and i like it alot. itz fast and also i can
play the latest games on it for example cod 4, directx 10.
now that that i have installed sp1 vista has been transformed. it is very quick and i am
now having no driver or software problems.
you need a good spec computer, i have a
core 2 duo e8500, raptor hard drive, gt88000 and 2gig of ddr2. this, my friends, is no
windows me mark 2.
just get a decent computer and sp1 and you will not look back. i
too had by doubts about vists - not anymore.
everyone knows that vista is not be adopted because it is so user unfriendly. it
professional refuse to adopt me2, read the above article you stupid retards! lmao! the
vast majority of people have rejected vista, microsoft's sequel to windows me. google it
on the web, sp1 does not icrease speed performance with vista. pc world:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142952-page,1/article.html
that, among other
things, touched some nerves. several users commenting on microsoft's official vista blog
-- where mention was made of the tests -- took exception to principled's conclusion that
vista sp1 and xp produced comparable results.
"hard to believe when every
other review site on the planet shows pretty much hands down [vista] is slower on similar
hardware," said a user identified as ceinach. "i didn't even think this was a point of
argument anymore. this statement is fairly stunning.... it's like microsoft is claiming
the earth is still flat."
computerworld's own tests, for instance, showed
that file copying -- a function microsoft has said it spent considerable effort improving
in sp1 -- remained much slower on vista than on windows xp.
sp1 doesn't give
much of a boost
principled technologies also put vista sp1 up against the pre-service
pack version of the operating system. when armed with sp1, pcs finished 87% of the
consumer chores faster than plain vista, and wrapped up more of the business operations
faster as well. but the speed improvements were meager, said principled. most of the
business tests were completed just fractions of a second faster by vista sp1 than by
vista.
"overall, windows vista sp1 was more responsive than windows vista on
most comparisons," the report stated. "performance differences between the two operating
systems were typically less than a quarter second."
users noticed that, too.
"all that work on service pack 1 and it's only a quarter second faster?" asked a user
pegged as "eponymousnyc."
the two reports, one that outlines the consumer
tests,
i do prefer the improved user interface and some small improvments to tasks. but for sure
the driver problems have been a pain but slowly getting better. and the current nvidia
drivers are a big improvement. also remember xp really didn t come into its own until
service pack 2, so i can't wait until hopefully next year if ms can pull there slow
coporate finger out! for a decent sp2, rather than sp1 which is just plugging holes in the
dam, which of course is not good in the long term. sp2 should be a major rewrite of vista
as a whole like xp sp2 was. and they also need to straemline there version crap, just
make vista premium the new ultimate, as ultimate as a buy seperate is a huge rip off for
very little gain and now stardocks are coming out with a deskscapes for all vista versions
there is no reason to ever buy ultimate, if ever there was in the first place.
quote "hi eemmm i think vista is great. its a very good operating system. get genuine
you lot will feel the difference. i am 15 years old and i like it alot. itz fast and also
i can play the latest games on it for example cod 4, directx 10."
cod 4 uses
directx 9c not 10, but i agree still a great game
great os. got a dual core over clocked to 3.2 ghz and 4 gb ram corsair corsair dominator
twin2x6400c4d and a xfx geforce 8800gts 580m 320mb xxx gddr3 my soundcard is creative sb
x-fi elite pro pci,64mb,116db snr, i/o, 3dmidi, eax
great drivers and stable and
ultra fast system. now play half life 2 in 64 bits mode again, try that on your old xp 32
os. vista rules. try crysis and see why vista x64 sp1 rules. and you have dx 10.
there won't be a sp2 for vista, because windows 7, minwin will be out to replace it,
microsoft has rushed production on win 7 because they know people are unhappy. poor gui,
its a memory and cpu whore, it does little more than xp, in fact, nothing more than xp. dx
10 is a joke and an utter failure, game manufacturers are putting out more new games with
dx9 still, they know vista s.ucks. so whats the point? vista is a failure.
there will or else they will have to deal with alot more then they have to already. also
game makers go with what the masses have, and the masses are ignorant to the future. also
it would be a dumb idea for microsoft to rush it would completely ruin the flow and ruin
there out look for a long time.
learn to spell retard tard. it's millennium, not 'millinium'.
get over your over glorified knobbing of winxp...it took 10 years to get better fro m
start...vista is slightly 1 year+ old...and getting better. i'm happy with my vista x64
system...no glitches, crashes and whatever else problems i've gotten when i was in xp.
if your cpu is old..stay xp...for us...we just keep trucking along. and for those win7
bandwagonning already...you are a bigger jackass than i've thought. hell i've got a
perfect land to sell to you..near a nuclear plant.
cool:
icc v4 is the reason why photography is better on vista than xp. icc v4
is one of the main reasons why photographers tend to prefer osx to windows.
winxp cannot do icc v4
microsoft did a os for the great economic interests - ie.: cinema companies, music
companies... and despised the interests of the users.
final math - lost the
users.
lesson learn - never bite the hand that feeds you.
and i hope it goes
down in flames.
never bite the
microsoft cannot expect to take measures against us and that we take it with a smile on
our faces... you are 110% right
the not adoption of vista is clearly well
deserved
i certainly will not pay my hard earned money with something that
includes "features" that go against my interests... and i will not say more!
linux for me. no problems like this at all.
come on people wise up. its not even a
third of the cost.
i agree..linus 4 me 2..vista seriously means..
v-virus
i-intruders
s-spywares
t-trojans
a-adwares....
the main disappointment for me is the non-existant usability improvements to the ui;
starting with the still existing stinking start menu over still not rearrangeble
taskbar-items...oh wait there's this cooool sidebar now taking up half my screen;
also the bugs remain: moving a file to a folder in list view will reset the sorting mode
etc.
what i hate most about vista: it's never ever idle when i am, it has always
something to grind in the background
agree: vista was made for hollywood.
it is not user friendly.
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