The SP1 upgrades continue - Day 2
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Tip: Click here to update all your PC's outdated driversToday I carried out the most critical SP1 upgrade so far - I upgraded my main system.
This is a Core 2 Extreme monster that’s been running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. All the SP1 upgrades I’ve done so far have been 32-bit upgrades. How did the upgrade go? What’s the system like afterwards? Read on.
First, give so you know the landscape, here’s the spec of the system:
* Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 processor running at 3GHz
* ASUS Maximus Formula motherboard
* 4GB of 1066MHz RAM
* 2 x WD Raptor X drives
* 2 x ATi Radeon 3870 graphics cards
* Dual monitors
This system scores full marks (5.9) on the Windows Experience Index. This system is fully up-to-date with respect to patches. This system has never had earlier pre-releases of SP1 installed.
OK, so how did the update go? Well, fine. The install process seems to take a while as this took 55 minutes, so the speed of the system doesn’t seem to have much of an effect on how long SP1 takes to install - those planning to install SP1 should put aside at least an hour to install SP1, maybe two. Better to allow for more time and not need it that need extra time and not have it.
While I’ve not carried out any proper benchmarking yet, here are some initial thoughts I have:
* Overall, the system feels quicker. There’s a snappy feeling to carrying out tasks (although this system was no slouch under Vista RTM!).
* Navigating network shares is a lot faster.
* Remote Desktop Connection is a lot better - I can connect to remote machines faster and the experience is noticeably better.
* There has been no change to the Windows Experience Index scale - 5.9 is still the top ceiling of the scale.
* Recovering from sleep is faster and the system is up and ready t use quicker.
Unknowns at present include:
* Overall system stability and reliability.
* Gaming performance.
source:
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Comments(36)
intel core 2 extreme qx9650 and it took your system almost a hour. either there is poor
coding or it is just vista sluggishness kicking in.
a hour!!
it took me that long with the standalone, granted i have x86. if you think back to xp
sp2, an hour is nothing to panic about.
btw, the performance index doesn't
have any ceilings. 5.9 was the max based on the hardware available at vista's launch.
i've seen some quad cores that score a 6.1-6.2.
5.9 is the highest score possible in the wei. this is hard coded.. so anything you saw
past 5.9 was an edited screenshot.
which mod still works? paradox/one click?
go a search for vista loader 2.2.... i've been using that no issues and it still works
in sp1
i have a system near exact same specs ads the one above with vista 64 ultimate
after
installing sp1 i have noticed an anoying pause while copying fines has anyone else noticed
this
5.9 is not hardcoded. microsoft never said that it was, and if you're right, then why
would they pick a weird number like 5.9? why not make it 6.0 like in figure skating?
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/458117.aspx
to quote
from this link:
"over time, as systems become more advanced, we expect to introduce
higher levels of 6 and beyond."
cant install sp1 i get error all the time
was running vista 32bit rtm using paradox crack... all fine & dandy...
installed sp1 and vista left me with 15 days to buy!!!
downloaded voaktools and
removed paradox and instlled one click vista activator (stro) and everything come up ok
(with crack installation)...
rebooted and hey presto... nothing... my pc fell
over saying invalid boot.ini file, booting from c:\windows... then nothing... it just
hung around for literally hours...
the only way to get started again was load
up the oringinal vista disc and repair startup (command prompt entering bootrec/fixboot)
hey presto my vista now boots up again...
anyway... tried several other of the
oem's sony, hp, asus etc. in one stro click (ff.2.1.2.1.1) but all resulted in this
crash...
then tried good old paradox again... and still 14 days left...
just thought i would let you know... and yes before the fixboot i was sweating...
good luck... and let me know if there's another workaroud...
i need tcp patch for sp1 64bit cant do browser stuff when using utorrent
x lobster:
vista loader 2.1.2 works fine with sp1.
the performance index is hardly "hard coded". in fact if you browse to
c:\windows\performance\winsat\datastore (with uac turned off) you can edit the xml
documents with wordpad to any score you want up to 9.9.
lobster: you're in luck! the 'workaround' is to format your harddrive and 'upgrade'
to xp pro! vista has a footprint of 10x the memory and cpu utilization of xp. and without
nasty infections like drm your system will fly! good luck.
here is the 64 bit (x64) sp1...it's big because it is the multilanguage version - works
great.
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i can't find a suitable crack for my vista sp1. yesterday i installed it and now i tried
a hol lot, but everytime it shows me 15 days. befor it worked fine with that oem thing,
but after updating it, it whants to be activated again. can somebody tell me trick to
activate it, without doing harm on my computer. and how can i deinstall oem again, that it
doesnt show up everytime i start my cocmputer.
thanks in advance.
i don't know but i think all these people that think that xp is better even after sp1
need to get a better system...lol and i know that after they read this post they will post
some bull about they have a great system they will even post specs but how do we even know
if thats really theyre system...hmmm so just remeber dont be cheap buy a great system to
run great software..and if you can't afford it then maybe its time to rethink getting a
better job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vista sp1rtm slowww back xp
you really are tired because if you are a reasonable person you're not thinking.
why would anyone want drm infection in their os to the extent that vista has it? why would
i want an os that cannot do one thing relevantly better or more than the previous one?
vista uses 10x more memory and cpu than xp pro. even with a quad core intel vista will be
slower because it is running more processes and using more cpu threads. vista is poor
programming, it is a memory whore plain and simple. i laugh at these people using cracks
on xp and vista...i have legally bought copies of both. i choose xp pro because it is a
btter os, escpecially with sp3 build 3300 i just installed last night. lightneing fast
and efficient. i ran games like crysis and bioshock under direct x 10. they dragged.
they run better under direct x 9 in xp. which is sad. i use a quad core intel 3.0 ghz, 4
gigs of ddr2 ram, 512 megs nvidia card.
tell me one thing vista can do that xp
can't...c'mon, one thing! vista is worhtless, it has no reason to even exist other than
to be a cash cow for microsoft. thats the way it is, deal with it!
many people bash vista claiming it slower than xp and my personal experience is that
vista is faster than xp. both were installed in the same computer with no additional
software and no changes to the default settings. vista boots faster and responds faster. i
think xp has been patched way too much that it has been slowed. both systems were updated
with legal updates and later with the rc for each system and vista still wins.
it took me 35 minutes to install it on my laptop which has a index of 3.4(because of the
graphics card bottleneck) either your lying to make vista look bad, or your just retarded
vista 64 rules with sp1 1840 rtm build. fast and stable. and you can use more than 3 gb
memory. xp belong to the past.
quote: my personal experience is that vista is faster than xp. unquote
you
obviously have very little experiance kid. everyone knows that xp smokes vista on speed
every single time hands down!
vista loader 2.1.2(asus oem) asus motherboard...still working after sp1 rtm. =]
vista can't maintain a streaming connection to my gaming consoles. xp can. for some
reason, windows media player 11 on vista loses it's connection to the consoles over the
network. i have yet to figure it out.
for those who used vista loader 2.1.2 & are still activated, check your registry under
windows nt-current version. i compared mine to someone else with a hp & under registered
orginaztion theirs says hewlitt packard, mine is blank. i have an asus motherboard using
an asus oem bios hack. not that im complaining cause im still activated, but just out of
curiousity.....thanks
i love both vista and xp, but vista runs faster on my machine.
you do not seem
to know anything about the mem architecture that vista uses, or about drm.
the vista memory architecture uses pre-empting. it fills up your memory like a cache, so
it can preempt data. most os's like osx and linux use this same architecture. most
noobs see this and think that its a bigger memory footprint, then get shot down by people
who actually do os development(me).
vista isnt the only one with drm. go look
at osx.
after install sp1 killed my vistaloader 2.0.0. said i had 15 days to activate. but all i
did was reinstall the same vistaloader again and all was fine.
mex: i swaer you are the most illiterate spic i have ever seen!
read this beaner...
http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/10/microsoft-vista-drm-tech-security-cz_bs_0212vista.html
there is something wrong with vista loader. after a while the pc is on the status changes
from activated to no activated and the minutes countdown it's not reset with the system
reboot.
ironman: you are the ignorant person when you resort to ethnic slurs. at least mex
explained his position in his post. he did not have to reference an online article. mex's
points are well taken. it makes no difference to tell me vista is slower because it is
not. xp may load faster on a newer machine but it is very slow to load on my p4. i get
better memory management and load time with vista.
"vista 64 rules with sp1 1840 rtm build. fast and stable. and you can use more than 3 gb
memory. xp belong to the past."
wrong! they changed the behavior of what is
displayed. before they showed how much was accessible to the os. now they show you how
much memory is installed on the motherboard. the limit is still there since it's because
32bit only has enough addresses for 4gb and some of the addresses are reserved by mmio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/memory-mapped_io
simple ans for those who are used lower/min pc spec, ofcos xp is better and others, vista
is the best one if you having higher pc spec.
i have two essentially identical machines--perhaps some small differences in installed
software--and i honestly cannot detect any difference in basic performance. objective
testing is the only sure way to know which is really faster but even that doesn't
necessarily translate into better performance for the average user.
not to
start another controvery, but i image that almost everyone using a 64-bit os thinks that
they get better performance than with a 32-bit system: some do and some don't. we tend to
lack objectivity in these things when we are invested in the outcome.
so? osx has drm built into the kernel as well.
btw, i knew you were going
to give me that article...i read that when it first came out (one year ago).
nice try :)
"you obviously have very little experiance kid. everyone knows that xp smokes vista on
speed every single time hands down!"
you don't need a phd in computer science
to be able to perceive the speed with which an operating systems does various tasks. you
sound like you're 13 years old and just want to sound important. that's ok, we've all
had grownups not listen to us at that age.
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