Forget about Vista SP1, Just Go with XP SP3 and Windows 7
section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 29.11.2007
Tip: Click here to update all your PC's outdated driversWindows Vista has managed to deliver an experience at the opposite pole of the Wow, becoming in this context a bitter disappointment for Microsoft.
The Redmond company now has to deal with the very realistic perspective that customers will skip this generation of the Windows client entirely. And although the first service pack for Vista, currently cooking over at Microsoft and planned for the first quarter of 2008, could act as incentive to drive up the adoption of the operating system, the company is offering almost concomitantly the third and final service pack for Windows XP by the summer of next year. This move is effectively designed to take the wind out of Vista's sales, SP1 or no SP1.
Wind? Did I say wind? I meant to say fading breeze. One year following the RTM of Vista, Microsoft's count of operating system licenses shipped into the channel was 88 million. The figure indicates with no doubt that Vista is selling. At least to general consumers. And that with the holiday seasons at the door, Microsoft might just hit and go over the 100 million sold copies milestone. But at the same time, the corporate environment is still timid when it comes to embracing Windows Vista. Recent studies made available by Forrester and King Research indicated that although Vista's uptake will pick up in 2008 with the advent of SP1, the vast majority of businesses have no plans whatsoever to migrate their environments to the latest Windows client. Microsoft even issued an official response to the King Research study.
"Without having looked at the study, it's hard to know whether or not there's any selection bias. The Forrester report, other studies and our own internal data show that business adoption is on a normal trajectory for a new OS at this point in its life cycle, and we are seeing positive indicators in the market that more customers are seeing value in Windows Vista and are starting to plan, test or begin their deployments", the company commented according to Microsoft Watch.
At the same time, inquiries from Silicon.com about Vista migration plans, addressed at 12 Chief Information Officers from major companies belonging to different markets, revealed that only one business actually had plans to move to the latest Windows platform in 2008 after SP1. The remaining respondents either discussed the possibility of migration starting with 2009, or indicated that they will ride out XP plus SP3 for all that the platform's got for three more years and move directly to Windows 7. Microsoft's position all this time is that ignoring Vista is an action equivalent with ignoring the inevitable.
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i was fooled by ms into believing that vista would be the revolutionary wind of changes
for home and business computers. after 11 months of working with vista, vista turned out
to be the wind of farts and full of sh!ts instead. only c.i.o idiots would even suggest
that vista is suitable for company business computers.
upgrade your pc to xp or
wait to the next window 7
after working a while in vista to many little problems and glitches have brought me back
to xp, i d' liked the new ui do.
i get tired of these same anti-vista articles written by the same guy at softpedia. if
people want to run vista, what the heck should it matter to him?
unlike others here, i like vista very much and have no plans on going back to xp. yet i
don't go around spewing crap telling people to drop xp.
i know for a fact
vista isn't bad like poeple are claiming. but i guess if you want to believe all the
blatant lies.
yes, there are some that really hate vista and will not give an unbiased opinion on it.
there are some good things about vista and some really bad things. i just think the bad
out weigh the good and that's what is wrong with vista. it's very resource intensive
and you can't get full enjoyment out of it without having a fast computer. otherwise you
are left with turning off it's graphical features, side bar, etc. you know the stuff that
people really want to use in the first place. my brother in law bought a new laptop with
vista preloaded. it didn't run like crap but it didn't run smooth either. a brand new
laptop should never be lagging. vista is very bloated and resource unfriendly. you
shouldn't have to have a supercomputer to run vista. the majority of users surf the net,
do their finances and school work. it doesn't take a supercomputer to do that. and
lastly is price. vista is way over-priced! the majority will not pay those prices for an
os that isn't that good to begin with.
fact is that vista has pissed off a
lot of people from the start and that has snowballed into the negativity you hear today.
vista is not completely bad but could use a lot of work. we all know that vista isn't
going to change and most will wait for the next version of windows.
the best
thing i liked about vista was how easy it integrated itself. it was easy with network
setups and saw every computer i had with no problems. the media sharing feature was nice.
it also even detected my xbox360. with xp you had to go through a lot of hoopla to get
things configured. having gone back to xp i do miss that part of vista.
you know people that have vista tell that it is a good os because they open for office
appl. and msn and seurf the net general use but for me the only problem is that i need
more seurity stability performance and special for games and not any game. people wake up
it is 5 years of development and that's the only thing they have to provide us!!!!!!!!!!
a good windows must be fast hi-tec attractive - highly secure- funny - without critical
errors. also he must consume less ram and prossing. we can purchase the best hardware but
not to be all eated by the os only do you understand....am i clear on this point
we are not against vista we love vista if he would be waht we realy expected and we are
not aganisnt microsoft too. we are just hungry why after all these years and we don't see
something that can let us realy say wow
also i will not correct by grammer mistake is it clear. i wirte what i want to write and
when i whant to write.
all this stupid articles from softpedia makes me sick. why they want so much destroy
vista? now its almost 10% market share they afraid? i don´t know... maybe they just get
payed a bonus to write so much stupid articles.
all u people who hate vista have to do is google windows xp rtm,n u will c that xp was
far from perfect when it first come out,people called it crap n went back 2 windows
98,give it a chance with aleast 2 service packs,n if that don,t help the os then the
writing is on the wall,just my 2 cents
just downgraded from vista to xp earlier today.
i liked vista, but there was no
justification for the extra system resources it used.
xp just runs much faster.
everyone knows vista s u c k s! because everyone knows it cost the highest amount of
money for his bloatware packed full of drm!
maybe you don't care that vista
dumbs down your operating system, or that it runs slower, requires the fastest computer,
and on top of all this, is full of buggy errors, poor hardware driver support, and going
to be obsolute in just about a year plus more when microsoft releases yet again another
operating system (windows 7) replacing your vista, demanding more money, another
upgrade...
so by all means purchase vista now, suffer the lack of support, the
drm limitations, hassles of wga, and by the time vista sp2 rolls around, windows 7 will be
available...
xp is already proven to function with your software investment
now, and everything vista does, you can do with xp anyhow...
vista isn't
every going to work... as soon as windows 7 is released, goodbye vista...
xp
has already lasted for the longest stretch of time, compared to all versions of windows in
use by both the public and the corporations...
vista isn't being used by the
corporations, it's not good enough. the public hates vista, and is why everyone isn't
buying vista...
only vista fanboi types want to think else...
as
soon as windows 7 is released, not one of your vista fanboi types will mention vista
again, except to say, what a huge waste of money, time and effort given for vista...
the company i work for here in southern va that employs about 400 people has no plans to
migrate to vista. possibly sp3 in time and after it's bench tested.
most of
the machines here are 2.4-2.8ghz p-4's with 512mb and 40gb's. migrating to vista would
be so costly hardware and software wise that it will never happen. and by the time
management decides to upgrade it will be time for windows 7. some of the machines here are
still at 256mb's.
microsoft has to learn that everyone, even it's corporate
partners dont have end-less supplies of cash rolling in, and can not afford new computers
to make them look "prettier" they have to provide some kind of needed functionality
which vista seems to lack.
vista = windows me.
yes its a shame that the only way to enjoy the full benfits of vista is to have a
up-to-date computer.
however i work in the "business machines" dept in
staples.
i told a few cutomers that some companies will be switching over to
vista. they all said im nuts!
well dont ya know one of them came in and said
"hey u were right"!
he works at a company (not allowed to say) that uses
these huge servers that cost about 60,000 a piece and he said that his company is
switching to vista!
the other shame is that vista is getting a bad rap bc m$
rushed it out unfinished.
to tell u the truth i had it since the beta and i
have had no real problems with it. in the beginning (beta) i did have some driver and game
problems....but ever since rtm and some of the updates i have had no more
problems....period!
i am now using the sp1 (rc) and there has been vast
improvements all around.
copy a file use vista from network server = 30k/s. xp 10x+ faster at the same task. what
up with that?
i say , why to vista when can i can do all the stuff in xp , from desktop to anything i
can transform in xp, so why sould i got for vista and buy new video card.
yeh may be after 2-3 years when it will be much upgraded (by patches and patches) and i
might have upgraded my pc i might give it a try.
see here we go again! all the hipe now over windows 7. who says this is gonna work
either. what, microsoft is suddenly going to get it right with 7 ? if thats the case, why
cant they fix vista? the problem is that i saw coming years ago is, the hardware companies
are moving faster the the sofeware being developed. companies are now just mastering
windows xp software with 2 year old hardware (which in all honestly justa s good and fast
as todays hardware). 2.4=2.4. we arent seeing 6 ghz cpu's today. were seeing hiped up
cpu's that are the same speed as the old p4 cpu's nothing is really getting faster. the
software is getting slower. this is the problem. microsoft should have made an xp pretty
edition ( vista aero glass pack patch) now were shuck with another windows me........in
64bit. another ultimate piece of shitte.
how do i get rid of crotch crickets? they very itchy! i turn out lite and they chip.. why
do i go to bed with itchy butt and wake up with stinky finger? could they be related? my
boyfriend say my bug taste like chicken.
he say finger lickin good. but i say i have
stinky finger. not taste good?
bought vista os, going back to cracked xp.
do ppl even know wtf they're talking about, when they say "vista is full of drm"?!? i
thought not... :d
also, why is it, that most vista bashers have the worst
grammar and spelling i've ever witnessed anywhere, and they always go for the same old
rebuked arguments...?
i'm sorry for them... :(
yes like someone said awhile back about how windows xp had a billion of the same
problems when it first came out.
guess no one remembers that huh?
bump !!!!
i'm one of those from the farthest corners of the world. i am interested in the xp vs
vista shit that's going on. i am a spectator and believe, i will never switch to xp until
windows 7. i don't remember reading too much shit about an operating system as i
currently do for vista.
the current vista saga is reminiscent of win98 when it was released. believe me, i stayed
with win95 until my upgrade to win xp. guess, i'll wait again for win 7. thank you.
this news is pure fud
my crysis game run 20% slower under vista ?
maybe time to remove your f$*#ing tons
of unuseful crap crippling your expensive unstable os ?
maybe time to ask users what
they really need or want ?
if detroit is forced to recall and repair defective product......
vista is crap xp powns all
people, my machine runs vista, i had reasons to go back to xp, but xp setup couldn't see
my second hdd, and that's 320 gb, after vista had formatted and used it. what is this? a
different ntfs?
i have used vista on and off since it came out. it is very slow and buggy. in its favor
it has excellent graphics and is very stable.
frankly, i don't know what is
going to happen when you can't get a new computer from one of the major manufacturers
starting next july, because so many folks want tostar with xp.
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yes like someone said awhile back
about how windows xp had a billion of the same problems when it first came out.
guess no one remembers that huh?
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god... think for a bit...
how many years had been used in xp development?
since windows me or windows 2000... just one year (xp came out in 2001)
how
many years had been used in vista development?
nearly 6 years!!!!!
is that
difficult to create a new os that deals with the usual problems customers have when
upgrading???
resources, speed and so on... are su.ckable.
drivers
compatibilities... even more su.ckable...
what else? oh! yes!
fiability and
security... i had to format twice in two days due to lack of stability... weren't we
supposed to say wow when we first used this os????
yes: wow! what a sh!t
xp works quite well id say, needles to say it needed some fixes. but, vista is
"better"? nah...i mean today products like vista should be an optimized version of its
predecessor. lighter etc, guis in all glory makes it nicer but what heck have they done?!
and why do you need all that computing power on os? i'd say, point'n'klick programming.
monkeys can almost write programs today, it's horrible.
rather save my
computing power to where it's needed on cad and calculations. how many here runs serious
software really?
recipe for me: bang up the gui a bit (who gives a shit bout
animated windows flying around?)
optimize the code further
and for gods sake...
let people choose what to install!
really, i have a six year old computer, no problems with vista...
1.6 ghz p4
1
gb ram
nvidia geforce 4 mx
nope, still no problems....
vista home
premium sp1
hehe...
yor computer must be a slow turtle. man, i remember those daze of waiting to do even one
operation, & don't even think about multi-tasking with that junk of yours. listen dill
weed, you have more in os than in hardware! wtf?
hm, did run winxp on me 450mhz, 512mb w geforce quadro. sure no problems, but it needed
speed optimization. now i run same setup w 3ghz, 2gb ram, raid lvl 0 and incremental
backup on the files that matters. bit of different software setup but not much of change
(well, thank god for nod32 that saved me from symantec). while on the subject of
bloatware, installed a newer version of nero today, intially it said "this installation
requires 1283mb on your harddrive" wtf?!?!? it's supposed to be cd/dvd recording
software for goats sake! you all see were this is leading anyways. sloppy programming no
streamlining, point'n'klick programming like it was n old lucas arts game! but the only
thing thats left of the point n klick from monkey island is the monkey doing the point and
klick nowadays that makes up so called programs! thank god there is still good programmers
out there!
i've 10 gb ram 2 tb hard disk space , 5,14ghz and directx 10 accelerator driver and both
of them work very fast.
many computers are p4 and only has 40 gb hard disk 128-256 mb ram and 1-3 ghz . so what
can they do with windows vista
that makes it so special really except for fancyfmancy?
if you want upgraded
gui and functionality there are far superior software out there. done quite of gui
modifying my self tested some software. it's all good if you know what you want and dont
overload which people tend to do. after 100+ re-installations i could say i know what i'm
on about.
so what makes vista so special, i can't see it so please exlplain
and be constructive!
try to install a xp without any updates or servispacks if you have some very old xp
disk.. and run that and you se.... vista is far more than xp was from the begining......
so dont complain if you dont like dont use most pepole using vista have a cracked
version.. or a beta... and say it dont work it suc ks bla bla... you got wart you pay
four dude
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By Antonio on 30.11.2007 - 04:11