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Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft’s own good?


section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 29.9.2007

On September 27, Microsoft has extended the cut-off as to when PC makers will be allowed to continue to sell Windows XP with new machines.




Until now, January 30, 2008, was the Microsoft-imposed deadline for system vendors to cease offering Windows XP on all new OEM machines. (System builders, a k a white-box vendors, had a longer deadline: January 30, 2009.) But as a result of feedback from customers and partners, Microsoft has extended the OEM and retailer cut-off date for XP to June 30, 2008. That gives consumers five more months to buy XP with new Windows PCs before being required to provide Vista.

The system-builder cut-off date for XP stays at 2009. Vendors selling XP Starter Edition on “ultra-low-cost” machines get a longer reprieve and can sell XP through 2010. And, in spite of the later cutover date for OEMs, nothing changes, in terms of how long Microsoft will support Windows Vista: Microsoft will provide mainstream support through 2012 and extended support through 2017.

Microsoft began paving the way for a longer Vista ramp-up in July, when it began simplifying the process by which its top-tier PC partners could downgrade Vista users to XP.

Microsoft officials insist Vista is selling well and the push back of the cutover deadline shouldn’t be interpreted as Microsoft lessening its commitment to Vista. The company will continue to spend its Windows marketing and support dollars on Vista, not XP.

“The one-year XP transition just turned out to be a little too ambitious,” acknowledged Kevin Kutz, a director in the Windows client unit. Traditionally, Microsoft has given OEMs two years to transition to a new operating system release, Kutz said.

Some industry watchers see the move as evidence of Microsoft is being responsive to customers and partners. Others see it as Microsoft going with the lesser of two evils by giving users not ready to move to Vista a choice other than defecting to Mac OSX or Linux. Even though Microsoft is likely making a few less dollars per copy of XP sold to OEMs than it makes on a copy of Vista, a Windows sale is still a Windows sale.

For my part, I can’t help but wonder if Vista finally and irrevocably pushed Windows into the same category as Microsoft Office, meaning that the cost and potential risks of upgrading have come to outweigh the benefit of new features in the eyes of many customers.

What’s your take? Did Microsoft make XP Service Pack (SP) 2 too good for its own good? Or is Vista just an off release that Microsoft should hurry up and replace — and definitely sooner than 2010, when it is slated to roll out Windows 7?

source: blogs.zdnet.com

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Comments(12)

XP Goodnes vs Vista vs Windows 7

By Nik on 29.09.2007 - 18:09
i have completely moved to vista but still love xp for it's simplicity and ease of use with regard to speed so when vista screws up i use acronis to image xp on to my partition and use it untill i feel like testing new sp1 updates or features like newly released dreamscene.
you would require a windows 7 era pc to full utilize and love vista enough to not go to windows 7 then.

so maybe the update and patch strategy for a big base os is better for us end users. but from ms point of view for them to make big bucks to show in their final accounts they need to dish out sub-standard crippled os every now and then to consumers.

Vista vs the computer

By whozzit on 30.09.2007 - 02:09
microsoft can release a turkey like vista from time to time but at least they're nice enough to let me try it out before purchasing it. that gives me the opportunity not to buy it, ignore it, and to continue using an operating system that works. i see no problem here. it hasn't rocked my boat at all. maybe microsoft will do better next time?

XP is King

By Dan on 30.09.2007 - 02:09
after testing vista for about 6 months i found that for most people it is not a good idea to upgrade. to really get the full potential out of it you somewhat need a new machine. my pc was built in 2005 and handles vista just fine. systems older than that and especially ones that are weaker will not run vista very well. you'll have to turn off some of the aesthetic features to increase the speed.

also the issues it's had with sound and gaming take it out of huge part of the market. the cost alone keeps it professionals from using it. it's definitely not worth the price. not for the few features you get. the ultimate package is a joke! don't look for many "extras" from microsoft. so far it's been a huge scam and people should be refunded the extra money they had to shell out for that.

if your machine can run it and you do the everyday things like internet, email, office then it's a decent thing to have. if you game or record music just stick with xp till the next windows.

when vista first surfaced into beta some people were saying it was going to be the new windowsme. for awhile i didn't think that it would happen. now i think that statement will hold true and it's going to cost microsoft big time for a dud product.

xp may look like crap compared to vista or mac osx but it's fast, stable, and compatible with everything. i might load vista on another hard drive just to have something different to fool with but it won't be my main choice.



Vista Probmatic

By packedfunk on 30.09.2007 - 03:09
come out with a turkey every other release & sell more os's! pretty smart if you sell os's! m$ = smart

Re: XP is King

By basil_555 on 30.09.2007 - 11:09
dan, you say, that "if you game or record music just stick with xp till the next windows."

but what about directx 10?

VIsta

By Muggins on 30.09.2007 - 12:09
i followed the lamb and like many aquired vista asap. having used it and found that it supported very little of my hard and software, coupled with virus attacks i quickly removed it and returned to xp. this was months ago and vista is still sat on a shelf collecting dust to this day........we need to make a stand one day and stop lining bill gates's and a few others pockets........who cares that vista have prety pics and this and that really?
nuff said

muggins

xp even after sp1 for windows me2

By xp user on 30.09.2007 - 14:09
even if sp1 is the fix for all the 1000s of problems for vista, it is still 10x slower than xp. i run a amd x2 6000+ with 2 gig ram and 500gig sata3 hd with 16meg cache. not a slow unit but xp is still faster and i use my unit to make a living. vista simply cost me money due to issues and speed. make it work and make it as fast as xp and maybe!

It's Not that XP is too Good. It's the Damned Bad Vista

By Tim on 30.09.2007 - 19:09
no!, it's not that windows xp is too good for microsoft’s own good.
it's the "damned bad vista" with the horrible performances, buggies, annoyances, unfriendly, unnecessary steps and hiden features that drive new and experienced users mads. microsoft is more concern with the drm protection features than making vista more userfriendly with simple features that just work and work really fast. who wouldn't be mad when your perfect working video/audio files in xp become suttering and frozen in vista? who want to digup vista hiden operations and take more unncessary steps when you can easily find and do same operations with xp? who's care to wait in minute(s) for vista to report the time it will take to do when the actual required time doing the operations are in second(s)? who have the patience to watch the stupid-blue-spinning-circles and the frozen windows?

Vista is excellent

By Mot on 30.09.2007 - 21:09
i don't understand most of you guys but i have been using vista for more than 6 monthsand never had a problem.

XP SP2 x VISTA without SP

By Just on 30.09.2007 - 22:09
it doesn't make sensible to still compare a system with two sps (xp sp2) with another one in development (vista without sp).

Just Playing

By Dondee on 01.10.2007 - 03:10
i originally put vista on a hdd which i used periodically to familarize myself with the os. winxp is still my choice but i do have vista functioning well now that most of my used software titles support vista. in a pinch, i could make the switch but i won't be changing for some time though.
too bad that many expensive scanners and printer will not be supported if they are several years old. we really can't blame ms for that part of the problem.

The Vista Experience

By Xelent on 01.10.2007 - 20:10
i have been using vista ultimate at my second os for some time now, and it really hoses cpu and memory. first when i installed vista on a friends laptop, a dual core 2 with 2 gb ram, then! finally vista started working well. and the shadowcopy feature of vista..did a check on a friends laptop, and it had store 15gb of shadowcopy (havent look into what it really is), so i turned it down to 300mb, which is the minimum. when it comes to backups, i only go for symantec ghost and similar. but vista is very sxy and compared to xp which in my opinium only started performing well with sp2, then vista is maybe the most promising os from m$ so far.


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