Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself
section: microsoft, for your questions: KezNews forum, 27.9.2007
Tip: Click here to update all your PC's outdated driversWhile Vista was originally touted by Microsoft as the operating system savior we've all been waiting for, it has turned out to be one of the biggest blunders in technology.
With a host of issues that are inexcusable and features that are taken from the Mac OS X and Linux playbook, Microsoft has once again lost sight of what we really want.
As we're more than aware, Vista Ultimate comes at a premium. For an additional $160 over the Premium SKU price, Ultimate gives you a complete backup and restore option, BitLocker Drive encryption, the ever so popular Windows Fax & Scan, and the "Ultimate Extras." But what started with a promise of "Extras" by summer, quickly turned into an apology from Microsoft and the eventual release of DreamScene and Windows Hold 'Em (among others) today. And while each of the "Extras" runs just fine, Microsoft's "Extras" blunder is just another reason why the company must abandon Vista before it's too late.
The first indication that Microsoft should abandon Vista is its poor sales figures. According to a recent report titled "Windows Vista Still Underperforming in U.S. Retail" from NPD, Vista sales are significantly behind XP sales during its early days. Even worse for Redmond, some are reverting to XP, citing issues with compatibility and overall design. And if that wasn't enough, Macs continue to surge and with the impending release of Leopard, Microsoft may be in for a rough holiday season.
With each passing day, it's becoming blatantly clear that Microsoft released Vista too early and the company's continual mistakes and promises that can't be kept are further annoying the Windows faithful.
Much talk has been given to Service Pack 1 and how this update should address many of the issues users have with Vista, but I simply don't agree. Will SP1 eliminate the ridiculous Microsoft licensing schemes? Will SP1 drop the price on the higher-end versions? Will SP1 eliminate the need for users to buy a new computer just to use the faulty OS?
SP1 will do nothing but fix the holes and issues we currently know about and create even more. As we all know from the days of Windows ME and even XP, Microsoft is not the best company at finding and addressing security issues, and chances are, Vista will be no different.
One significant problem that I have with Vista is its inclusion of new DRM, specifically the company's decision to install Protected Video Path. To prevent a person from copying (or in most cases, backing up) a movie, the operating system provides process isolation and if an unverified component is in use, the operating system shuts down DRM content. For the first time on any operating system, we're not even allowed to backup our favorite movies? Come on.
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Comments(33)
backup is probably the main reason people are just not buying vista (aside from the
hype).. it seem ms has become the new big brother and wants to dictate what we can and
can't do but yet they want us to go and lay down a few hundred dollars for junk that is
not complete or just plain over hyped...
i do not believe for one minute that
vista is better than xp...in (their) theory it does sound better than xp but it just
isn't finnished. if we as consumers refuse to buy into the hype of every incomplete os
the shuck out every couple years and stick to our guns they will have to listen...i refuse
to jump to vista just becuase they say i need to....
if they would concentrate more
on the os and less on anti-piracy that makes the os even more buggy and a pain in the ass
to deal with ( i should be allowed to upgrade hardware whenever and as often as i want
without having to call ms just because i upgraded a few things in less than 6
months)...leave the antipiracy shit out of it and concentrate on the os...it's a proven
fact all the millions they sink into anti-piracy the damn things get hacked/cracked within
days.....
with that said....
my name is earl hickey
it is an actual fact that the preview of longhorn (that was shown on youtube in 2003) was
totally original to the mac versions. mac then released the new version of mac os x using
stolen ideas from the preview of longhorn. vista came out much later than mac os x and
people forgot what the preview showed in 2003 to what vista is today. mac copied vista!!!
(or longhorn)
amen to the article, all true, xp is here to stay...
none of the longhorn features made it into vista...
but it's more than
obvious, many of the mac features were used in vista, only there not done right...
if you invented these features like mas did, you would see them work, like in a mac
computer.
funny how vista copies them, but will above thinks microsoft invented
them, and then doesn't get them to function correctly...
who's the real
pirate behind this, bill?
don't take my opinion, check out these facts...
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
http://desktoplinux.com/articles/at9727687530.html
vista's issues with sound did it in for me. i couldn't record music with it so it had
to go. other than that everything ran fine. you need a supercomputer to run it though.
very bloated and un-resourceful. vista had plenty of time to be developed. but like
someone else stated they spend too much time with drm, anti-piracy and other stupid shit
that doesn't belong. xp on todays computers run like a champ and it's a very stable os.
vista will end up like windowsme.
this author and all you commenters are all on crack.
vista is here to stay
and xp will eventually go the way of windows 2000 in just a couple of more years.
yes. the average user experiences a lot of pain associated with vista these days, but
that is to be expected with every new version of windows. windows xp was absolute
buggy-bloated crap when it first came out in 2001, and only until well after sp1 did it
really mature and the software enviroment around it matured into it.
give it
at least 1-2 more years, and maybe a service pack or two later and vista will be
completely stable, work with all the latest hardware/software, and utilize the cpu 100x
better than xp ever did.
all of today's naysayer noobs will be running it and
touting how much better than xp it is.
long live windows xp pro !!! down with vista !!!
no way! i build 1000's of systems a year. from the single user to mom & pop shops to
bus. with 30+ pc's. i have sold this year to date 2 with vista. all others have asked for
xp pro! i say dump windows me2 and wait for windows 7. unless it is just like vista! the
real facts people!
it makes absolutely no sense to go through several years of pain, aggravation and updates
with vista on the long shot that it might come out as well as xp works right now. ever
hear of wasting a few years? i thought that we went through that with windows me.
vista has fundamental improvements in its architecture, memory usage, and hardware
handling, that (when fixed up, matured, and in harmony with the next generation of
software/hardware) will make xp look no better than windows 95.
obviously
default new pc's for average users these days should be running windows xp because that
is the right choice for mainstream compatibility right now. but that won't be the case
for long.
also: people who say vista is me2 are retards! me failed because it
had the same unstable codebase as windows 98 instead of a stable nt-based kernel like
windows 2000. vista is doing about the same as xp did when it first came out and everyone
called it garbage compared to 2000.
get it?
70 millions copies sold and bill gates's still #1 in the whole earth
they already did!
...with a host of issues that are excusable and lots of features that are eliminating
from the "obsoleted" mac os x and the "crap" linux playbook, microsoft has once a
vision of what we really want... vista ultimate
bill gates again rules!
as a developer... i absolutely love vista and will never go back to xp.
that being said, there are a number of issues with it. it was released too early, pushed
out and pushed back.
the other departments of ms are also lacking in support.
pushing x86 and xp before supplying the goods for their flagship os.
-onecare
still in beta for x64
-live suite unavailbe for x64
-messenger no longer
available for x64
-office2007 only x86
i started with vista while it was
in beta on a secondary machine, then switched my main box to vista about 6 weeks after
retail release.
since then i've had ups and downs with it, but once the
performance and reliability patches came out... 0 issues.
shame on ms for not
getting on their own bandwagon.
but the potential of what vista offers (wpf)
are truly amazing...
also, if you're just a meat & potatoes os user, i would
highly recommend server2008.
as a normal user...why should i buy an os, well vista. after buying a pc i presume os
should come with it
rofl... umm.. i copy dvds just fine under vista. apple copied windows with their "time
machine" (sorry but windows server had that long before mac and it was incoporated into
vista ie shadowcopy etc). the article is just more fud from the ms bashers. ms is not
perfect but try run all the software/games out there on a mac or linux.
vista is just one good service pack away from being king.
server 2008 is vista without the aero graphics. it's rock solid, even in its current
beta release.
it does everything vista can do plus it has all the server features you
could ever want.
once xp supports dx10 & 10.1 i won't bother with anything else, but right now dx9.0c
isn't what i want for crysis and bioshock.
what ms has done is given in to corp interests over user interests. instead of building
on the 2003 kernel (well it is 2003 with junk), they develop a lot of crap that actually
works against their customers. sure some customers will make a copy of a movie, who
cares?!
i want my os streamlined, fast as hell and to do what i want it to do and i
don't want to be spied on, something very sneeky about vista actually xp is a bit sneeky
too but vista takes it to a new level. an os should be just that and os and not some
platform for enforcement and monitoring. ms has betrayed it's customer base. remote
registry checking? oh ya, nobody is looking at that.
the os should work for the
paying consumer period regardless of what that consumer wishes to do with it, what is this
1984?
we have noticed this ms! and we are your outside tech crew, those who
supported and helped make you rich in the past. you bet your but i'll keep everone on xp
and office 2003 and servers on 2000. why? peace of mind and the good of the consumer.
i will use nothing personally but a custom, secure (for us the users you traitors)
xp if windows at all for now.
what they could have done with all that money and
research, my god, it could have been beautifull!
very very disapointed.
nick
ps pirated vista is a reality and pirating on vista is no problem so
why do they bother? oh what they could have done!
do you think they will get
the message?
dx10 ha, it'll be back ported to xp one way or another or we'll
use stripped to the bone custom vista with no internet just for gaming.
they
should concentrate on dazzling us with a true 3d holo laser platform, magical sounds,
moving from keyboard and mouse to whats next, the experience and of course personal
security not corporate security and looking over your sholder.
to all of you that think vista is crap!! you think vista is crap because you try to
tweak vista with xp tweaks or you just donīt know how to use vista! try this, forget all
you know about windows, start over with a fresh open mind to learn vistaīs new platform
before you judge something you donīt understand! thatīs the problem with people today they
are so judgmental about shit they donīt understand or if things are too complicated for
them! get with the times!!!!!!!
keznews.com readers are not stupid. you know the different between vista and xp and you
know what work best for your hardware between xp & vista.
i just want you to
know why we support vista. like all big pc oem makers, we talk our customers into buying
the new microsoft vista systems because vista demands new very high-end hardware and we
get better profits margins when we build and sale top of the line hardware like intel dual
2core/quad cpus, ati-2600/2900 xt(512m ddr3) or nvida-8800 gtx graphics cards, 4-8 gig of
highspeed game ram, highspeed serial 500gig raid-disks. we make money with highend
hardware system for vista system. we loose money when we build lowend hardware for xp
system. this is the real reason why we like vista.
i'm tired of working on shit called oem xp ready system with crap video onboard)
slow 80 to 120g hdds, and 256mb of slow memory. dell makes 1000's of these crap system,
gateway makes more, so far the vista system oem are much better, it is demanded by the
os... screw the cheap ass emachine, dell, gateway - cheap lans 10mbps, 56k modems,256mb
ddr ram, wvga color on xp. lets get some good systems..
i know some trolls want to say that vista is the best, but i have a very nice machine set
up on xp, and it runs almost 150-200% faster than when i had vista on it. i want more
speed, but i don't need a ferrari to get it with an xp machine. stability, compatibility,
drivers... who wants to bother?. besides, m$ vista have some things i don't specially
like about how media is played with it. want an advice? keep your 2000 or xp. don't want
it? well then, kiss your vista 'fisher-price' os. happy landings!
piece of sh**. xp is better and faster, without aero and directx10. if you are not a
gamer, and not a microsoft licker ( supporting bill in his adventure of being the ultimate
rich guy for ever),just chose xp, or mac ( i love macs :d, it is the eighth beauty of the
world...)or linux , why not, if you like the command lines...
it's nice on the eye, it does "just work" for me. i've had no issues. the oem bios
emulator has never done me wrong. i have no problems backing up my dvds to disc. the only
crashes i have are on hibernate, and that's because of the bad drivers for my g15, but
that happened back in xp, and happens on other mahcines too. i still have uac turned on,
and have no issues with any programs except bioshock which has issues anyway. superfecth
is a dream with the 2gb of ram i have, although i'm going for another 2gb shortly due to
the low low prices. granted my machine is fairly powerful, but if you have a crummy old
machine, you have no room for complaint. microsoft designed it for use with the current
technology. in my programming classes at uni, i don't design applications to run on the
amstrad, i design them to run on vista, and at the least xp, with a reasonably high
powered proc.
i think you are all too hard on microsoft tbh. you try making a pretty
os that attempts to run programs designed for a 10+ yr old os, and make it run
efficiently. it's not as easy as it looks, even for a large company. granted they have
made mistakes, but at least they admit them in the open, and don't try an hide them, or
disclose them behind a big new feature like apple have done in the past...
hahahah it's very funny read yours opinion how ever i love windows x64, take care
windows vista is the stupid os ever made.
bye
hey, what do you guys want for nothing? i have no complaints with vista; it's faster,
and looks better than xp. i'm staying with vista forever.
if only microsoft would sell there software os for $50-$100.. vista may off taking off..
may of.......
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By Earl_Hicky on 28.09.2007 - 01:09