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The XP alternative for Vista PCs


section: windows, for your questions: KezNews forum, 23.9.2007

While Microsoft is still pushing Vista hard, the company is quietly allowing PC makers to offer a "downgrade" option to buyers that get machines with the new operating system but want to switch to Windows XP.




The program applies only to Windows Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and it is up to PC makers to decide how, if at all, they want to make XP available. Fujitsu has been among the most aggressive, starting last month to include an XP disc in the box with its laptops and tablets.

"That's going to help out small- and medium-size businesses," Fujitsu marketing manager Brandon Farris told CNET News.com.

Hewlett-Packard also started a program in August for many of its business models. "For business desktops, workstations and select business notebooks and tablet PCs, customers can configure their systems to include the XP Pro restore disc for little or no charge," HP spokeswoman Tiffany Smith said in an e-mail. She said it was too soon to gauge how high customer interest has been. "Since we've only been offering (it) for about a month, we don't really have anything to share on demand."

A Microsoft representative confirmed there were changes made over the summer to make it easier for customers to downgrade to XP. Under Microsoft's licensing terms for Vista, buyers of Vista Business and Vista Ultimate Edition have always had the right to downgrade to XP, but in practice this could be challenging. In June, Microsoft changed its practices to allow computer makers that sell pre-activated Vista machines to order Windows XP discs that could be included inside the box with PCs, or shipped to customers without requiring additional activation. Microsoft noted in a statement that neither it nor the PC makers are "obligated to supply earlier versions to end users under the end user licensing terms."

While there is always resistance by some to move to a new operating system, there appears to be particularly strong demand, especially from businesses, to stick with XP.

One of the challenges, for both businesses and consumers are Vista's hefty graphics and memory needs.

Lenovo, for its part, has details for its downgrade program on its IBM ThinkPad Web site.

Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden said Dell has been offering businesses that have a Premier Page set up the option to order systems with XP, Vista or Vista with XP downgrade rights. There is no extra charge for the downgrade rights.

"We've been offering it and we're still offering it," she said.

HP, Gateway and others also still sell machines with XP on them, nearly a year after Microsoft first started offering Vista to businesses. Vista went on sale broadly to consumers in January, at which point XP largely disappeared from retail shelves.

However, demand for XP has remained. In April, Dell brought XP back as an option even on consumer PCs.

There is an issue, though, over how long PC makers can keep selling machines with Windows XP as the preloaded operating system. Microsoft is requiring large PC makers to stop selling XP-based systems as of January 31, though some PC makers would like to sell XP machines for longer.

source: news.com

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Comments(8)

Microsoft is requiring large PC makers to stop selling XP-based s

By you have no choice on 24.09.2007 - 00:09
does anyone think any of the major mfg will risk having to pay retail for an os from ms. they will all jump just as high as ms asks them to. and we get stuck with windows me2!

Vista

By packedfunk on 24.09.2007 - 01:09
vista = windows me2

The XP alternative for Vista PCs

By TC on 24.09.2007 - 02:09
i keep telling you all to go to linux and you won't be worring about any of this shit.

linux - very incomplete

By swandike on 24.09.2007 - 02:09
no offence to linux users, but i find linux an incomplete os. u wanna install something, nah, u need that, then that will ask u that u need something else, then that then at. wtf...
cant they just put everything on the os cd? most of us hate reading thats why we are users not designers

alternatives to Vista

By whozzit on 24.09.2007 - 04:09
i'm really missing something here. i've used dos 5.0, dos 6.22, windows, windows 3.11, windows 95, windows 98, windows me, windows 2000, windows xp (11 flavors) and vista ultimate. and then i got rid of vista ultimate. the point here is that although most of those are no longer supported... they all still work. and as far as linux goes... if you want a version of linux that works as well as windows... and is supported... buy a copy of xandros home desktop deluxe. it's cheaper than any of the windows but operates in a windows based environment and is supported. vista is only good for browsing, email and bad-mouthing. if that's all you do... use vista. if you want to use the computer to do what it was originally designed to do... keep xp or get xandros. there's no rocket science happening here.

xandros?

By inny on 24.09.2007 - 15:09
why xandros? it's not a linux imo. would you buy a box version of linux? ok, but not linspire and xandros...they aren't compatible with gplv3. they have deal with micro$hit...(novell too, but i respect them).

good news

By winxpuser on 25.09.2007 - 05:09
very good news, i wanna say that windows vista = windows me ii

xandros , linux fedora suse blah blah

By swandike on 26.09.2007 - 00:09
i checked hardware compatibility...nah, not good. and i dont wanna compile my own softwares. i like it done for me


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